Thorne Family Genealogy Pages
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Sarah Ann Parker
Birth - BMD Index Births: Jun 1845, Sarah Ann Parker, The Newark Union, Mother's name Walton, 15 557 NOTE: Bassingham is in Newark registration district. (Obtained from revised GRO Indexes 2016) Brith - IGI Baptism Date: 25th March 1845, Place: Bassingham Lincoln. Father: James Parker. Mother: Douglas. (Obtained from IGI LDS site - parish records)
Marriage - certificate Date: 10th Jan 1864. Place: St Leonard's Shoreditch. Name: George Thorne - aged 29 - occupation Porter Father: Thomas Thorne, Painter. Name: Sarah Ann Parker - aged 21. Father: James Parker, Labourer. Address: (for both) 7 New Inn Street. Witness: James ??? & Eliza Louisa Brooks. NOTE: 1861 census there are some parkers living at 1 New Inn St, so seems likely that the wedding certificate is not a 7 but a 1 for address. Connection not proven. NOTE: Sarah is down as 21 years of age. But all census returns show her to be 19ish in 1864 Marriage - BMD Index Marriages - March 1864 - Parker Sarah Ann Shoreditch 1c 414 Thorne George Shoreditch 1c 414
2nd Marriage - BMD Index Marriages Dec 1877 - Thorne Sarah Ann Camberwell 1d 1157 Ray William Henry Camberwell 1d 1157 England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Sarah Ann Thorne (Widow) Spouse Name: William Henry Ray (Fireman) Record Type: Marriage, 26 Nov 1877 Parish: Camberwell St Giles, Southwark Father Name: James Parker (Contractor) Father Name: William Ray (Mariner) Address: Both Belham Street. Witnesses: Jane parker & Arthur Foster.
Electoral Registers William Ray - 1891 - Suffolk Grove, Yard & Factory William Ray - 1894,1895,1897,1898,1899 & 1900 - 27 Suffolk Grove, Southwark
Death details FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Sarah Ann Ray Birth Year: abt.1845 Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1902 Age at Death: 57 Reg District: Southwark County: London Volume: 1d Page: 14 Burial record Place: Nunhead Cemetery (Southwark) Name: Sarah Ann Ray (nee.Thorne, nee.Parker) Burial: 10 May 1902 Grave ref: 59/26285
Sarah's Children - extra info George Walter Thorne IGI... Name: George Walter Thorne Birth: 19 OCT 1864 Christening: 14 NOV 1864 in St Matthew, Bethnal Green Father: George Thorne, Mother: Sarah Ann BMD Index... Births Dec 1864 - Thorne George Walter Bethnal Gn 1c 283 Deaths Dec 1865 - Thorne George Walter Camberwell 1d 359 NOTE: In 1866 a new parish of Shoreditch, Holy Trinity was formed from part of St Leonard's and part of neighbouring Bethnal Green. • • • • • • • • • • Alice Maud Thorne IGI... Name: Alice Maude Thorne Born: 01 JUN 1866 Christened: 26 AUG 1866 in St Leonard's Shoreditch, London England Father: George Thorne Mother: Sarah Ann BMD Index... Births Sep 1866 - Thorne Alice M Camberwell 1d 513 Marriages Dec 1899 - Thorne Alice Maud St.Saviour 1d 401 Gorick James St.Saviour 1d 401 Deaths Dec 1925 - Gorick Alice M 58 Southwark 1d 47 Gorick Children... Births Jun 1889 - Gorick Edith Maud M Lambeth 1d 335 Births Mar 1892 - Gorick Sydney Henry St.Saviour 1d 58 Births Dec 1908 - Gorick Constance Ena Southwark 1d 73 NOTE: Looks as if Alice is James's second wife and that he has children from previous marriage. 1891 Census... Address: 50 New Cut, Lambeth, St Mary James Gorick Head m 46 tobacconist Born Bethnal Green Alice Gorick Wife m 24 Born Camberwell William Gorick Son s 16 Born Bethnal Green Edith Gorick Dau s 2 Born Lambeth 1901 Census... GORICK, Edith Boarder F 11 1890 51 Lambeth Walk London GORICK, Sidney Boarder M 9 1892 Queen Victoria Buildings London Address: Docking Road, Barmer, Norfolk NOTE: They are living with the Edge family. Alice Gorick's mother, Sarah Ann Parker's family came from the same area in Norfolk. 1901 Census... Gorick, James 57 1844 Southwark, Cigar Maker Gorick, Alice 34 1867 Southwark, d/o Address: 75 Pocock Rd, Southwark London. 1911 Census... James Gorick Head Married 55 1856 Cigar Maker London Bethnal Green Alice Gorick Wife Married 22yrs 43 1868 London Camberwell Edith Gorick Daug Spinster 21 1890 Velum Sewer London Southwark Constance Gorick Daug 2 1909 London Southwark Address: 33 Great Suffolk Street Southwark S E. St George the Martyr West NOTE: 3 children born. 3 still living. James is unemployed. Son Sidney 1911, boarder in Norfolk (Barmer Kings Lynn) with the Edge Family... Sidney Henry Gorick Boarder Single 19 1892 Horseman On Farm Gt.Suffolk St, London About James & Alice Gorick's children... Edith Maud Gorick - Married Harold James Silvester in 1915. They had three children that I know of. Their youngest boy Stanley died during WWI. Edith died in 1958, aged 69. 1926-1939 electoral register show her living at 44 Elliotts Row, Southwark. Name: Silvester, Stanley Richard Rank: Gunner Service No: 990175 Date of Death: 22/10/1943 Age: 23 Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery 113 Field Regt. Grave Reference: VII, D, 14. Cemetery: Minturno War Cemetery Italy Additional Info: Son of Harold James Silvester and Edith Maud Silvester, of Southwark, London. Sidney Henry Gorick - Remained in Norfolk with the Edge family & married a Kate Hurn in 1920. They had six children, that I know of. Sydney passed away in March 1950 at Kings Lynn, Norfolk. British Army WWI Service Records 1914-1920 Name: Sydney Henry Gorick Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Age at Enlistment: 24 Residence: Barmer, kings Lynn, Norfolk Document Year: 1916 Regimental Number: 6572 Regiment Name: R Fusiliers Labour Corps Discharged aged: 27 Next of kin: George Edge (father) Colour of eyes: Pale blue. British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards 1914-1920 Name: Sydney H Gorick Regiment or Corps: Norfolk Regiment Regimental Number: 8629 Medal: British Constance Gorick - The youngest of the silbings, by a big gap, moved to the USA, aged 18, just one year after her mother passed away. She married an American, Elbert Franklin Ryder, in 1928 and had at least four children. Constance and Frank divorced 1977. Passenger list - SS Berengaria Name: Constance Gorick, Machinist, Aged 18 Relatives address: Mrs.E.Silvester(sister),44 Elliotts Row Southwark SE11 Passage paid: Aunt. 2nd class. no.15168 Destination: New York Departed: Dec 7th 1926 Southampton Joining relative: Aunt. Mrs. Ward, 72 Mason Ave, Babylon, Long Island. NY. Description: 5ft 4in, Brown hair, Brown eyes. Scars on neck. Condition of Health: Good Read and Write: yes 1930 United States Federal Census... Name: Constance Ryder, aged 21 Address: 58 Albany Ave Home in 1930: Amityville, Suffolk, New York Immigration Year: 1926 Relation to Head: Wife Spouse's Name: Frank Ryder Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Others in household: Frank Ryder 21 Chauffeur, Trucks Frank Ryder 1 Constance Ryder 0 1940 United States Federal Census... Name: Constance Ryde, aged 31 Address: 77 Broadway Home in 1940: Babylon, Suffolk, New York Residence in 1935: Same Place Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school,8th grade Weeks Worked in 1939: 0 Others in household: Frank Ryde 35 Locomotive repairer, steam railroad Constance Ryde 10 Harold Ryde 8 David Ryde 1 • • • • • • • • • • Ernest Harman Thorne IGI... Name: Ernest Harman Thorne Born: 13 MAY 1868 Christened: 02 AUG 1868 in St Leonard's Shoreditch, London England Father: George Thorne Mother: Sarah Ann Parish Baptism... Name: Ernest Harman Thorne Date: 2 Aug 1868 Father: George Thorne - Railway Ticket Collector Mother: Sarah Ann Thorne Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch Borough: Hackney County: London BMD Index... Births Jun 1868 - Thorne Ernest Hannan Camberwell 1d 605 Deaths Mar 1881 - Thorne Ernest Halmon 12yrs Camberwell 1d 478 • • • • • • • • • • Charles Thomas Thorne BMD Index... Births Sep 1870 - Thorne Charles Thomas E Camberwell 1d 595 Marriages Dec 1893 - Thorne Charles Thomas E St. Saviour 1d 174 Poole Kate Ruby St. Saviour 1d 174 Deaths Sep 1911 - Thorne Charles T E 42yrs Camberwell 1d 897 Birth Certificate... Name: Charles Thomas Edgar Thorne. Born: 17th June 1870, at 10 Belham street. Residence: 10 Belham Street, Camberwell, Surrey. Father: George Thorne, a Railway ticket collector. Mother: Sarah Ann (Formerly Parker) Parish Baptism... Name: Charles Thomas Edgar Thorne Date: 14 Aug 1870 Father: George Frank Thorne - Railway Ticket Collector Mother: Sarah Ann Thorne Abode: Belham Street Parish: Saint Giles, Camberwell Borough: Southwark County: Surrey Marriage Certificate... Date: 25th Dec 1893, Registered St Saviour London. Name: Charles Thorne, aged 23 - Labourer. Father: George F Thorne (deceased) - Railway ticket inspector. Address: 30 Gravel Lane. Name: Kate R. Poole, aged 23. Father: Edward Poole - Moulder Address: 36 Gravel Lane. Witness: Edith Jane Thorne & Rosina Miller. NOTE: See also separate Records for Charles. • • • • • • • • • • Edith Jane Thorne Parish Baptism... Name: Edith Jane Thorne Date: 10 Nov 1872 Father: George Frank Thorne - Railway Ticket Collector Mother: Sarah Ann Thorne Abode: Belham Street Parish: Saint Giles, Camberwell Borough: Southwark County: Surrey BMD Index... Births Sep 1872 - Thorne Edith Jane Camberwell 1d 664 Marriages Dec 1894 - Thorne Edith Jane Camberwell 1d 1323 Ward Christopher Reuben Camberwell 1d 1323 Marriage Certificate... 25 Dec 1894, Saint Giles, Camberwell, Surrey, Southwark Edith Jane Thorne (aged 23) & Christopher Renben Ward (aged 26, Printer) Bride's father: George Frank Thorne, deceased, Railway Inspector Groom's father: Henry Ward, Gunmaker Address both: 10 Belham Street Witnesses: William Ray & Rosina Maltilda ??? 1901 Census... Christopher R Ward Head 33 London, Southwark Print machine __ Edith J Ward Wife 28 London, Camberwell Cissie E Ward Dau 1 London, Southwark 77 Pocock Street, Southwark, West Southwark. RG13/367/44/24 schedule 187 NOTE: Pocock St runs between Gt.Suffolk St & Blackfriars Rd. Deaths Dec 1910 Ward Christopher R 43 Southwark 1d 72 1911 Census... Edith Ward Wife Widow F 38 1873 Housekeeper Private Camberwell London 4 Children born and 1 still living. 16 yrs married. Address: 21 Boyson Road S E, London RG14 Piece:1830 Reg District:Southwark Sub District:Newington South Enumeration District:12 Parish:St Mary Newington Passenger List - Saxonia Edith Jane Ward (widow), Cook, b.1872 London England. Address of relative: Mrs.Gorick(sister), 44 Elliots Row Southwark. Port of Departure: London. Port of Arrival: New York, 2nd Dec 1920. NOTE: Edith left England for New York to join her only living child, her daughter, Cissey and her husband Henry Jones. Cissey had left from London to New York back in October 1920. New York State Census 1925... Name Age Occupation Yrs in US Harry E Jones 32 Chauffeur 04 Cecella E Jones 25 Housework 04 Le Roy C Jones 03 Floyd E Jones 0 Edith Ward 51 Housework 04 72 Mason Ave, Babylon, Suffolk Assembly District: 02 Line Number: 40 Page Number: 7 NOTE: 1930 & 1940 Federal Census, Cissey & her family are still in New York, but no Edith. Henry is an Inspector then Superintendent of State Park. Litchfield Ave in 1930. North Road in 1940. Edith and Christopher's children: Baptism: 25 Jan 1898 Name: Venie Ward Father: Christoper Ward (Printer) Mother: Edith Jane Ward Address: 199 High St, Boro. Parish: Walworth All Saints Borough: Southwark Deaths Sep 1898 - Ward Venie 0 St.Saviour 1d 23 • • • • • • • • Births Sep 1899 - Ward Cissie Ellalaine St.Saviour 1d 44 Baptism: 25 Jul 1899 Name: Cissy Ellaline Ward Father: Christoper Ward (Machine minder) Mother: Edith Jane Ward Address: 77 Pocock St. Parish: Walworth All Saints Borough: Southwark • • • • • • • • Births Mar 1904 - Ward Mabel Camberwell 1d 893 Baptism: 25 Nov 1905 Name: Mabel Ward Father: Christoper Ward (Printer) Mother: Edith Ward Address: 98 Waterloo Sq. Parish: Camberwell Emmanuel Borough: Southwark Deaths Dec 1905 - Ward Mabel 1 Camberwell 1d 527